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JULIA: And we’re supposed to release it... JULIA: The story we’re gonna tell is not about sexual harassment, but I can’t think straight with all the stuff that’s happening. I need to get it laminated before I have it framed. JULIA: Carolyn says that for decades after this case she didn't understand what it meant. I better turn that off. LINDA HIRSHMAN: And accordingly, the task was showing that the racially inflected. She didn’t understand what it meant as a legal principle or that it ushered in this new era for women in this country. Because in most of those cases, the discrimination against the man was derivative of a prior and worse discrimination against the woman. JULIA: Because you know the word sex has a charge to it. JULIA: She says she was really comfortable with him. JAD: They needed the women to buy the beer? I don’t know I’m guessing. CAROLYN: I felt like I was walking forever up those stairs. ANTONIN SCALIA: Certainly the Constitution does not require sexual discrim- discrimination on the basis of sex. That was not only their place; it was built into their bodies. How are we going to get equal rights for women? JULIA: By none other than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. JULIA: So I couldn’t confirm that for sure. I’d never traveled anywhere by myself. And to him, this case was pretty straightforward. And the law doesn’t say quite the words that all males--, FRED GILBERT: The justices just kept hammering, OYEZ: The only way he can get relief is to move his age back and drink, FRED: All right you honor that is technically -- the way the complaint is drafted and what, OYEZ: Well but you say what’s before the court. RBG: No. STEPHENS: I just don’t understand you are you trying to avoid the question? JULIA: So in the late 60s and early 70s, people like Gloria Steinem…. That everyone has equal protection of the laws. Was kind of more a male rights case. WOMAN: I move the adoption of the following resolution. What if the ERA doesn’t pass, so what are we going to do if that’s the case? RBG: Gender classifications were always rationalized as favors to women. To to discriminate based on race, you have to pass a really super hard test. He he was so pushy. So refer not just to male discrimination but discrimination based on gender. CAROLYN: We were supposed to close at 11. No trespassing sign. I’d imagine she’d want the opposite. They’re finishing the fight I started. How--we don’t want to get mixed up in this. You have these 18 year old girls coming in and buying beer, slipping it to their boyfriends. JULIA: She wrote to Fred telling him that she didn’t need to be the one to present oral argument before the court. CAROLYN: Well I didn’t hear half of what he said. I mean not those words explicitly but there was nothing that says you can’t discriminate? And I still thought it was a term paper. RBG: We wish that the court had picked a less frothy case to make that announcement LAUGHTER, but of course we were very pleased that after that--, JULIA: The day the decision was announced. it will give men a great opportunity to get out from under their obligations. JULIA: They met in high school. It wasn’t as rigorous as race. JULIA: She was like case? Wait wait wait. You’d be thrown into the walls and you’d leave a body print. In that case, a woman wanted to become a lawyer, WENDY WILLIAMS: The justices said that that was a perfectly good rule because the justice system could be seen as not appropriate for women. I was busy every time he came in so, you know, it wasn’t that important at the time. CAROLYN: I haven’t run across many people that I didn’t care for. JULIA: It’s one. RUTH BADER GINSBURG [C-SPAN]: I think people who want to keep women down would like nothing better than women to go off in a corner and speak only to women.

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